tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post7053428617581673863..comments2024-03-13T15:41:33.595-07:00Comments on A Way to Live: Watch the diceDoyu Shoninhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-50921759641392513242011-03-16T07:53:35.420-07:002011-03-16T07:53:35.420-07:00Leigh, once upon a time the yeomanry who had farme...Leigh, once upon a time the yeomanry who had farmed grain in England for thousands of years were the conservatives and then along came the gentry with the "innovation" of enclosure for export wool. This is for me the only explanation of modern "conservatism" that I can get a grip on -- why nuclear engineering is touted in some circles as "science" and climate studies dismissed in the same circles as "myth." It's not conservatism at all, it's just theft of the commons.<br /><br />Me, I just want to conserve the ability of the soil out there to support me and mine. So you and I, I should think, have more in "common" than not, neh? ;)Doyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-43353563940595176282011-03-16T03:30:17.176-07:002011-03-16T03:30:17.176-07:00Looks like you have some dry ground, I envy that!
...Looks like you have some dry ground, I envy that!<br /><br />I've thought about the bloggers I know in your area and it's worrisome. I'm not sure what to think about the comment conversation that follows because of it. I would like to respectfully suggest though, that perhaps the labels of "conservative" and "liberal" no longer apply in such cases anymore. It seems to me that we've come full circle and have folks of both persuasions who would take opposite sides on these types of issues. <br /><br />Personally however, I didn't see any alarmism in your original post, just an intelligent awareness of possible consequences and the need to take precautions against them. (And yup, most folks would shove me under the conservative label ;)Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-43608014779865618632011-03-15T15:08:56.493-07:002011-03-15T15:08:56.493-07:00"Ready to stay indoors awhile?" is a que..."Ready to stay indoors awhile?" is a question about preparation. It is not yet shown that preparation is noit a good idea here in relation to the ongoing incident. "Cry wolf" is what a certain little boy did in a story about <i>lying.</i> Hence my going a little off my usual equanimity here.Doyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-3247868220383810742011-03-15T14:44:03.809-07:002011-03-15T14:44:03.809-07:00We'll may have to agree to disagree. I never s...We'll may have to agree to disagree. I never said that nuclear power was safe, big business was trustworthy or that there was no danger in areas close to the failing Japanese reactors. The issue is whether your suggestion of staying indoors in the PNW was warranted.<br /><br />Current weather patterns say no risk on US west coast (http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2011/03/us-west-coast-is-not-at-risk.html).<br /><br />We can try to one up each other on kids and grandchildren but I don't think that's worthwhile.Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12452842332549541201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-259461845248107872011-03-15T11:27:01.913-07:002011-03-15T11:27:01.913-07:00"I have children"
Amen, sister."I have children" <br /><br />Amen, sister.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-43285850082479115282011-03-14T14:58:47.079-07:002011-03-14T14:58:47.079-07:00Here is the most even-handed discussion I have see...Here is the most even-handed discussion I have seen today, at <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/03/japan-megaquake-update.html" rel="nofollow">New Scientist</a>. I like it better than some of the things in the general media over the last two days, which I submit were more alarmist than little me (and may have unduly influenced me). I think I'll go bake some bread now and try to stay out of trouble.Doyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-28191332912579162582011-03-14T14:38:37.538-07:002011-03-14T14:38:37.538-07:00Tepco has been caught in so many lies about safety...Tepco has been caught in so many lies about safety and events that I'm interested in hearing from an impartial observer. What's frustrating about this event is that impartial observers within the industry and its supporters are simply not available; there's too much (taxpayer-sourced) money at stake. The best discussion I can find for information on the event and its possible or probable risks is at the Oil Drum, and what I'm hearing there has not yet reassured me.<br /><br />Remember the culture around these things: BP: "nothing on sea bottom." Independent scientist (who can't get funding and is working practically as a volunteer): "Sea bottom coated; everything dead." Government to independent scientist: "Get out of here." Twenty years after these sorts of things -- Exxon Valdez, Minamata, Love Canal -- one usually, if not practically always finds that, yes, it was worse than the official pronouncements, and often even worse than the alarmists thought. <br /><br />I'm fairly moderate; I'm not really crying wolf so much as "Eek! This looks like wolf tracks." And then, time after time, I go out to the paddock and all the sheep have their throats ripped out. Conspiracy theory is beginning, ever so slowly, like Galileo's theory, to seem more and more plausible to me, through experience.<br /><br />And I'd be <i>very</i> happy to have the safety and benignity of these massive explosions (the second one right on top of a vat of MOX) proven. Pronouncements from the bureaucracy and the corporate infrastructure have been disseminated. I am not yet reassured. <br /><br />I said: "Cesium has been detected at one of the shut-in reactors. Some material will have melted, TMI-style. As these are light water reactors, this is not Chernobyl. But it is very, very bad."<br /><br />Some might feel that that was an irresponsible thing to say. Others might feel that siting a MOX reactor on a fault line was irresponsible. Events may prove me alarmist; I don't think the consequences of my being in the wrong is in the same class as the consequences of Tepco's being in the wrong. There would be so much more at stake.Doyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-37873214618408705462011-03-14T13:17:00.967-07:002011-03-14T13:17:00.967-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-17655320287146791992011-03-14T12:56:42.683-07:002011-03-14T12:56:42.683-07:00But why put out alarmist posts when the danger to ...But why put out alarmist posts when the danger to PNW is so small?<br /><br />There is always a need to valid information, and there may come a time for action without panic. Crying wolf is seldom helpful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-42785390382886520502011-03-12T23:00:21.167-08:002011-03-12T23:00:21.167-08:00Suits me!Suits me!Doyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-16628517265591522382011-03-12T15:15:20.457-08:002011-03-12T15:15:20.457-08:00If you scroll down you will see this statement:
Re...If you scroll down you will see this statement:<br />Regarding radioactive release in Japan, nothing to worry about. Even if there was a MASSIVE release there, it would be utterly diluted by the time it reached us.<br />Followed by today's post: Where would the radioactivity go? http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2011/03/where-would-radioactivity-go.html<br /><br />The point being that even though radioactivity is not good thing and the jet stream goes from Japan to PNW dilution and distance work in favor of PNW this time. Don't forget to take elevation of weather patterns into consideration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-24122403511680348452011-03-12T09:37:11.298-08:002011-03-12T09:37:11.298-08:00Hopefully some truth to updates here:
https://www...Hopefully some truth to updates here:<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=201105606585900&commentsDoyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-7510652843050253642011-03-11T23:39:47.224-08:002011-03-11T23:39:47.224-08:00It's the Jet Stream that is our problem with t...It's the Jet Stream that is our problem with this in the U.S. and Canada.<br /><br />http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=npac_250Doyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-10171710581736616142011-03-11T23:34:29.109-08:002011-03-11T23:34:29.109-08:00All I saw there was about the tsunami pattern?
Ce...All I saw there was about the tsunami pattern?<br /><br />Cesium has been detected at one of the shut-in reactors. Some material will have melted, TMI-style. As these are light water reactors, this is not Chernobyl. But it is very, very bad. <br /><br />http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110312D12JF423.htmDoyu Shoninhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00148504542232844586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28394335.post-67340950047063583192011-03-11T22:18:37.217-08:002011-03-11T22:18:37.217-08:00A meteorologists take on Japanese radiation in PNW...A meteorologists take on Japanese radiation in PNW: http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2011/03/tsunami.html<br />Comments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com